Russian–Ukrainian war

[Adamant1]

@_sev

Unfortunately, you continue to ignore any attempts to bring you to the senses. You just repeat over and over again your narrative.

I’ve been pretty clear from the beginning that I’d just like to see the Ukrainian community clarify the article and take a stance against people removing Russian names from Ukraine. I wouldn’t call the degree to which I’ve pointed out their unwellness to that a “narrative.” I don’t really have any story I’m trying to tell here outside of making it clear that the community has failed to do either one of those things in the year (more or less) that people have been asking them to.

Like I said already, I’m not the one who keeps bringing up the war, I could really care less about the politics. And to the degree that I’ve repeated myself it’s been directly proportional to the unwellness on your side to address why this conversation was started. The is that I wouldn’t be involved in this right now if the community had of just dealt with it appropriately from the beginning. Your the ones repeating a narrative by acting like there’s to this on my end then that.

@_sev

Ukrainian community is against mass-removal of name:ru tags. It is clearly a vandalism

Good. I’m glad your willing to say it’s vandalism almost a year later and after multiple people asked the community to take stance on it multiple times. Easy clap…

@_sev

of course, you could easily find individual changesets or even whole user accounts without discussions.

Like I said, I’ve looked into this a lot over the last year or two. I’m not just cherry picking individual changesets to fit a narrative or whatever. There’s plenty of examples where the Ukrainian community all but ignored anti-Russian edits while promptly dealing with pro-Russian ones in the meantime.

@_sev

For non-toponyms, the truth-on-the-ground must be followed for the “name” tag. In the past, some users were mass-transliterating names.

That’s all well and good, but people who explicitly state “civilized world dont needs language of russian rapists of children and womens” clearly aren’t making the edits because the names are miss-translations. So I don’t really see how your tangent about toponyms or whatever is relevant

@_sev

Hence, we are not eager to revert two years old things en masse. Of course, we will prevent such attempts when noticed.

First of all the edits removing Russian names aren’t two years old. Secondly, the claim that the community prevents such attempts when it notices them is clearly false. Multiple people in this conversation have pointed out changesets were Russian names were removed from the map and their comments were all but ignored. Hell, your the only one who’s even acknowledged it’s going on or said it’s a problem. So your the idea that the community prevents such attempts when they see them is totally ridiculous on its face. Maybe there’s instances where they have prevented the edits from happening or whatever, but it’s clearly not consistent and they are more willing to acknowledge and/or deal with pro-Russian edits then anti-Russian ones.