200+ hours of work deleted. How can I report this deletion and revert it to its original state?

I don’t wish to take up much of your time. The only question I really had was the reason for the deletion, since it’s a significant amount of data that I took a while to add which you deleted. I of course am open to criticism on my implementation, but I really do not enjoy going to my old work just to see it all deleted, you get me?

I just ideally would rather have my data restored, and then I could of course make some changes accordingly if necessary, but I do not wish to have all my work deleted, especially since it is valid data and not incorrect, and other people implemented it the same way before without issue.

I don’t intend to criticise anything, I just was seeking clarification.

I do appreciate your input though, and will take it into account for future edits.

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While on this note, would you see it fit to restore the data? I was told I can contact the Data Working Group to request it to be restored, but if there is another way that means that fewer people have to get involved in the case then I’m all for it.

Let me know if this would be possible.

I would also wish that I do not have to encounter such a situation of my data being wiped again, so any advice on how I could mitigate and avoid these risks would be appreciated, since I am really trying to improve the data coverage in these areas since they tend to be quite lacklustre, and I ideally do not wish for all my efforts to be wiped clean every so often.

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I listened to the arguments on all sides and will follow the guidance of the balance of opinion in the thread.

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May I assume no questions left then?

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This is not a valid reason to delete these trees.

Similarly if someone would map playgrounds or addresses without mapping other things it is not valid reason to delete this data.

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Wikipedia has a concept: Notoriety it is called? I sometimes wish, openstreetmap had something like this.

PS: I mapped a ditch today – Want to know why? It has some notoriety: The waterworks wanted to cancel the ditch, the local community stood up against that. And most of all: I spent double the time surveying on location than behind the keyboard/screen :slight_smile:

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Can someone describe the process that needs to be run to get the original data put back? This seems like something you’d need DWG powertools to do efficiently.

revert.monicz.dev has the ability to filter reverts using overpass queries, so you could potentially revert the changesets and filter by tag.

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That will work once you identify the changeset and is a great resource. That leaves the work of identifying the changesets an open question however. I could probably work out some combination of overpass and other scripts but I have to imagine there are some tools already available… at least to some users!

does this include ukrainians too? (how long is the edit lock down period for a conflict area?)

@kucai That question is off-topic here; if you would like to ask what it makes sense to map in Ukraine I’d suggest asking in the Ukraine category. You might want to reformat the question to be a bit more polite; what you’ve written here seems a bit rude.

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Broadly speaking, we have the same “revert” tools as everyone else, just more familiarity with using them :slight_smile:

In this case I can confirm that there is a DWG ticket for this and it is being dealt with, but (as the DWG person handling the ticket said there) there’s no rush, since the objects were deleted a few months ago, and deleted objects don’t present the same restore problems as changed objects do.

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And if I would be repairing this damage I would use attic data in Overpass to look at date when data was fully existing to either identify which edits need to be reverted or to confirm that repair was completed.

Can I make some edits in the area before the restore takes place? I have a few things that I want to edit since they’re missing.

If revert will add only trees mapped as points then I would refrain from

  • mapping trees (to avoid duplicates) or objects very close to trees (say, bench between trees)
  • moving object to adjust imagery offset (as trees will appear at original positions)

So it would be fine for me to add missing street lamps and the likes along streets?

I wouldn’t ask me; I’d reply to the message from the DWG person dealing with your ticket :slight_smile:

(messages are working, since you replied to one at 22:14 UTC last night)

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nah. just want to see your clarification on the “OSM is not your personal map (nor is it mine or anyone else’s…)” part. I’ll learn english more (queen’s english?) so as not to sound rude the next time around.

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I elaborated a bit on this idea here: "geoglyphs" added in Nazca, Peru - #3 by StC. Not the same situation and the same rule, but the same need for clarification

I do not specifically remember, why I wrote that. Perhaps because I read that somebody mapped thousands of trees where often a wood area would do? Getting showed samples of others doing just that, where a tree-row would do?

That said, I do map trees, e.g when part of a triangle that is very common here: a wayside cross, a bench and a tree, sometimes accompanied by a waste basket. I map that when coming by the place and noticing it missing on the map of my mobile. I even like to add species tags to the trees.

The closest to Wikipedia Notoriety is, what new users get told when they sign up: Map what you are interested in. I understand that as: Stuff on the ground that I can relate to. Fortunately, OSM has nothing against original work, local knowledge even valued highly.